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Posted - 2014.02.10 16:30:00 -
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A squad doesn't need 5 scouts to begin with so I don't blame the kid for getting mad at you guys for dicking around. The point of Dom is take the objective and hold it; not prance around the map getting ninja kills that doesn't even effect the tide of battle.
Edit: A squad is supposed to help each other out, not do their own thing. That's why you're in a squad and if you don't want to help them out then you should be running solo.
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Posted - 2014.02.10 16:37:00 -
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TranquilBiscuit ofVaLoR wrote:Thumb Green wrote:A squad doesn't need 5 scouts to begin with so I don't blame the kid for getting mad at you guys for dicking around. The point of Dom is take the objective and hold it; not prance around the map getting ninja kills that doesn't even effect the tide of battle. it may be easy for you to just to "hold a point" in your amarr assault, but in case you didn't realize, scouts aren't very good in 3v1s against stacked logis and assaults.
Like I said, a squad doesn't need 5 scouts to begin with.
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Posted - 2014.02.10 18:49:00 -
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TranquilBiscuit ofVaLoR wrote:Thumb Green wrote:TranquilBiscuit ofVaLoR wrote:
it may be easy for you to just to "hold a point" in your amarr assault, but in case you didn't realize, scouts aren't very good in 3v1s against stacked logis and assaults.
Like I said, a squad doesn't need 5 scouts to begin with. Edit. So it was you guys that were the greenberries that turned out to be more useless than blueberries. don't kid yourself.
The only one kidding themselves here is you by calling the only person on your squad that was actually trying, useless. You guys are obviously the ones that were being useless by running up to 5 scouts when a squad only needs 1 or 2 at most. The worse part is that you chose to be useless because I know you've been here long enough to have enough SP to run good fits other than scouts.
Don't try to make yourself feel better by blaming your own uselessness on other people that are actually trying.
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Posted - 2014.02.10 19:36:00 -
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TranquilBiscuit ofVaLoR wrote:Thumb Green wrote:TranquilBiscuit ofVaLoR wrote:Thumb Green wrote:TranquilBiscuit ofVaLoR wrote:
it may be easy for you to just to "hold a point" in your amarr assault, but in case you didn't realize, scouts aren't very good in 3v1s against stacked logis and assaults.
Like I said, a squad doesn't need 5 scouts to begin with. Edit. So it was you guys that were the greenberries that turned out to be more useless than blueberries. don't kid yourself. The only one kidding themselves here is you by calling the only person on your squad that was actually trying, useless. You guys are obviously the ones that were being useless by running up to 5 scouts when a squad only needs 1 or 2 at most. The worse part is that you chose to be useless because I know you've been here long enough to have enough SP to run good fits other than scouts. Don't try to make yourself feel better by blaming your own uselessness on other people that are actually trying. nope. i have almost 26 million sp and all of my viable fits are scouts, with the only exception being a 550 melee damage cal med frame ck.0. and who said we weren't trying? there's a difference between being smart about trying to get the objective and just blindly running in trying to hack it even though there are multiple enemies surrounding you. i know the limitations of my suit. i'm not going to try to take on 3 stacked logis head on with an advanced scout suit. that doesn't mean i'm being useless, it just means i'm being smart.
I have 22 mil, I have a proto slayer logi and real logi fit with adv equipment, I have a heavy proto hmg & proto forge both with prof 4 I have most weapons to adv (except flaylock, Scr, Scp, shotgun, & nova knives); I can be long range, short range, or cqc. I can be a killer or a healer and certainly my fits are lacking in areas but they get the job done most of the time and when one role becomes useless I switch to one that isn't..
You said yourself that the enemy took the objective and there was nothing you could do about it in your scout suit (thus you were being useless) and now you say you were playing smart? What were you doing, trying to starve them out? Or were you actually just getting ninja kills on strays that had absolutely no impact on the the tide of battle?
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Posted - 2014.02.10 20:28:00 -
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Foxbat 071 wrote:1. Some of you don't understand that scouts don't camp an objective, they scatter and flank. Try playing as a real scout sometime.
2. Some of the best squads I run with are full scout squads. You only need 1-2 scouts? Maybe in PC, but it's perfectly viable in pubs.
I'm eager to see the FOTM chasers spending their refunded SP into scouts come 1.8. It won't be long before they realize scouts aren't mini assaults and beg for another respec.
1. No, we understand that but flanking in objective based modes is only useful when it enables the capture of the objective or routing of the enemy trying to capture the objective from your team. Neither of which were apparently happening in the match being discussed.
2. Sure it's viable in ambushes where it's only kill or be killed. But in an objective based mode when that squad can't capture or assist in the capture of the objective and defend or assist in the defense of the objective then that squad is not viable; it's just useless dead weight. And in the match being discussed he clearly states that his squad of scouts couldn't do anything about the objective. If they want to play an objective based mode then they should play for the objective; if they just want to play for kills then they should play ambush.
However I don't expect a group of scouts to capture and hold an objective, What I do expect is when a persons role is useless in the current situation that they don't say it's not my fault that I'm useless and then point the finger at someone else.
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Posted - 2014.02.10 21:08:00 -
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Dengru wrote:smh at all these people ragging on you for "screwing around" in a pubmatch
People are ragging on him for calling someone useless and making a big deal about it when he himself was useless the whole time.
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Posted - 2014.02.10 22:07:00 -
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PARKOUR PRACTIONER wrote:Thumb, STFU. You don't run scout so you don't know the role. Your worse than the kid, cause obviously older then him and think you know everything. HTFO.
I don't have to run scout to know that a squad full of them that can't take an objective or do anything to help take the objective are nothing but dead weight. I'm sorry if it hurts your feelings but it's the truth.
Patrick57 wrote:Thumb Green wrote:Like I said, a squad doesn't need 5 scouts to begin with. What if I said a squad doesn't need 5 Assaults or 5 Logis? Just because you say it doesn't mean it's true. Scouts are useful, if you use them right, and in great numbers they can devastate the enemy team.
If you said that I would agree, a squad doesn't need 5 assault or 5 logis and are kind of limiting themselves. Because sometimes you need a heavy soaking up damage and sometimes you need a scout flanking and etc.... I'm not saying that scouts aren't useful and I'm not saying that in great numbers they can't devastate the enemy. What I'm saying is that in the match Biscuit is bitching about this kid being useless in his 5 scouts were just as useless because they couldn't or wouldn't do jack squat to help take the objective.
Edit: All these scouts getting butthurt because I said a squad doesn't need 5 scouts; well excuse me for believing a good squad is a diverse squad. Excuse me for believe a good squad is a squad that can adapt to the needs of the battlefield.
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Posted - 2014.02.11 02:23:00 -
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Ok, that's relevant to me how? Hmm, did I say scouts can't defend a point? No I didn't.
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